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	<title>Comments on: Lifelong Learning is NOT a 9 to 5 Job</title>
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		<title>By: Are our training efforts helping educators or enabling codependence? &#8211; Dangerously Irrelevant &#171; Jeff Thomas Grace Technology</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Are our training efforts helping educators or enabling codependence? &#8211; Dangerously Irrelevant &#171; Jeff Thomas Grace Technology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] discussed this recently in an article &#8220;Lifelong Learning is Not a 9 to 5 Job&#8221;. http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/     Reply   July 11, 2009 at 07:52 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussed this recently in an article &#8220;Lifelong Learning is Not a 9 to 5 Job&#8221;. <a href="http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/" rel="nofollow">http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/</a>     Reply   July 11, 2009 at 07:52 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paralleldivergence</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paralleldivergence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering how long the issue of performance pay would take to be raised and thanks for raising it Simon.

Firstly, yes, the employer does benefit - but so do the customers - the students - and everyone sems to forget them.  In the public school system, your principal is NOT your employer, the Department of Education is, and there are many opportunities for teachers to gain promotion through merit selection. Surely a teacher who puts in the effort to develop their own skills and can demonstrate those skills in practise will stand a better chance at promotion - benefiting everyone, themselves included.

I have never understood why teaching seems to be the only profession where (in Australia at least), you al start at the same level and you all progress at the same rate for seven years in tems of salary - regardless of merit. Ability plays no part in career progression in the early stages. Seniority does. We seem to be teaching teachers that you don&#039;t need to work harder to progress, you just have to stick in there. We keep drumming out of teachers the desire to learn and improve. After those seven years of coasting, suddenly there might be a desire to go to the next level, but mediochrity doesn&#039;t cut it (actually sometimes it does - I&#039;ve see my fair share of dud school executives).

Why is there no other profession that works this way?  Why have changes occurred more readily in other professions and not in teaching? These are all valid arguments for performance pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering how long the issue of performance pay would take to be raised and thanks for raising it Simon.</p>
<p>Firstly, yes, the employer does benefit &#8211; but so do the customers &#8211; the students &#8211; and everyone sems to forget them.  In the public school system, your principal is NOT your employer, the Department of Education is, and there are many opportunities for teachers to gain promotion through merit selection. Surely a teacher who puts in the effort to develop their own skills and can demonstrate those skills in practise will stand a better chance at promotion &#8211; benefiting everyone, themselves included.</p>
<p>I have never understood why teaching seems to be the only profession where (in Australia at least), you al start at the same level and you all progress at the same rate for seven years in tems of salary &#8211; regardless of merit. Ability plays no part in career progression in the early stages. Seniority does. We seem to be teaching teachers that you don&#8217;t need to work harder to progress, you just have to stick in there. We keep drumming out of teachers the desire to learn and improve. After those seven years of coasting, suddenly there might be a desire to go to the next level, but mediochrity doesn&#8217;t cut it (actually sometimes it does &#8211; I&#8217;ve see my fair share of dud school executives).</p>
<p>Why is there no other profession that works this way?  Why have changes occurred more readily in other professions and not in teaching? These are all valid arguments for performance pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Job</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Job]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stu, I agree, but... 

Whilst you note that it is not the employers responsibility, they certainly benefit.  In fact, in the DET anything you create belongs to the DET (was going to reference the Code of Conduct, but the Portal is broken again).

As I learn new skills, and develop older skills my employer, my school, my students benefit.  Although, my experience is that your employer tends to take advantage of that (meaning, more jobs).

I guess this is where a discussion about performance pay starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu, I agree, but&#8230; </p>
<p>Whilst you note that it is not the employers responsibility, they certainly benefit.  In fact, in the DET anything you create belongs to the DET (was going to reference the Code of Conduct, but the Portal is broken again).</p>
<p>As I learn new skills, and develop older skills my employer, my school, my students benefit.  Although, my experience is that your employer tends to take advantage of that (meaning, more jobs).</p>
<p>I guess this is where a discussion about performance pay starts.</p>
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		<title>By: paralleldivergence</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paralleldivergence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done Lisa. You don&#039;t have to kill yourself doing it though. :) There is plenty to learn, we just need to find the right balance for ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Lisa. You don&#8217;t have to kill yourself doing it though. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  There is plenty to learn, we just need to find the right balance for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Haller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Haller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lifelong learning...my head hurts! But it is so much fun! 

9-5?? I am constantly having this argument with my non-teacher husband who is a tradie and doesn&#039;t understand staying back without overtime. 
It is more like, 8-6 at school, 6-8 kids, 8-11 laptop. I love trying to keep up to date, my family does not! So much for those lovely school teacher hours ;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifelong learning&#8230;my head hurts! But it is so much fun! </p>
<p>9-5?? I am constantly having this argument with my non-teacher husband who is a tradie and doesn&#8217;t understand staying back without overtime.<br />
It is more like, 8-6 at school, 6-8 kids, 8-11 laptop. I love trying to keep up to date, my family does not! So much for those lovely school teacher hours <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: pixeltoy</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pixeltoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t let&#039;s get started on the SBSR fiasco! Especially when it is forced upon a staff by those in senior exec within a school. Aaarrrggghhh!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let&#8217;s get started on the SBSR fiasco! Especially when it is forced upon a staff by those in senior exec within a school. Aaarrrggghhh!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: paralleldivergence</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paralleldivergence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Principal.

Please excuse Simon for not completing his reports on time. As a teacher, he decided he needed to practise the concept of lifelong learning that educators seem to preach so much about.

Sincerely,

Parallel Divergence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Principal.</p>
<p>Please excuse Simon for not completing his reports on time. As a teacher, he decided he needed to practise the concept of lifelong learning that educators seem to preach so much about.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Parallel Divergence.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Borgert</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Borgert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Stu as a Maths teacher where would I be without my textbook and end of topic test! :)

A big issue occurs when teachers themselves have lost the will to be life-long learners - unfortunately quite common as they get caught up in the everyday admisitriva of reports, tests, marking, etc.  I use learning opportunities as a reward for finishing the drudgery of everyday tasks.  Hmm so tommorow I think I&#039;ll play with GeoGebra rather than finish my reports - will you write me an excuse note?

A great post and one for sharing. Would make a good intro to online discussions for teachers about to embark on L4L (sorry NSWDER). Or perhaps to demo the student response network...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Stu as a Maths teacher where would I be without my textbook and end of topic test! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A big issue occurs when teachers themselves have lost the will to be life-long learners &#8211; unfortunately quite common as they get caught up in the everyday admisitriva of reports, tests, marking, etc.  I use learning opportunities as a reward for finishing the drudgery of everyday tasks.  Hmm so tommorow I think I&#8217;ll play with GeoGebra rather than finish my reports &#8211; will you write me an excuse note?</p>
<p>A great post and one for sharing. Would make a good intro to online discussions for teachers about to embark on L4L (sorry NSWDER). Or perhaps to demo the student response network&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Sir!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Sir!</p>
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		<title>By: paralleldivergence</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paralleldivergence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Pixeltoy, schools certainly do kill creativity. I enjoy this little smack in the face too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1sCsl2MQY

Troy, thanks for your comment. I love your first sentence providing the reason for this attitude in many schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Pixeltoy, schools certainly do kill creativity. I enjoy this little smack in the face too: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1sCsl2MQY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1sCsl2MQY</a></p>
<p>Troy, thanks for your comment. I love your first sentence providing the reason for this attitude in many schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixeltoy</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pixeltoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go watch Ken Robinson. Go on, off you go! Www.ted.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go watch Ken Robinson. Go on, off you go! <a href="http://Www.ted.com" rel="nofollow">http://Www.ted.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://paralleldivergence.com/2009/06/14/lifelong-learning-is-not-a-9-to-5-job/#comment-10570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the four walls and textbook and summative assessment driven formule entrenched in most educational contexts belittles learning into work. Knowledge isn&#039;t power, understanding is...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the four walls and textbook and summative assessment driven formule entrenched in most educational contexts belittles learning into work. Knowledge isn&#8217;t power, understanding is&#8230;</p>
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