Comments on: The Needle and the Damage Done http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/ just when you think you've got it all together Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:00:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: k http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10933 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:20:22 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10933 The first time I read this poem I was about 15yrs old now 31 But still have that copy of the poem. Title was “Until death do us part” by an anonymous heroin addict who at the time(1972) was in the armed forces.

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10423 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:37:17 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10423 Hi Rich, yes, our good friends at YouTube got a demand from “the copyright owners” (aka the evil record company) to remove the audio. The thing is, while my video embellishes the original song and possibly promotes sales for the record company of this track and others in Neil Young’s vast collection, YouTube does nothing against the blatant copyright-ripoffs that have flooded YouTube – the video clips, the live performances etc.

Oh well, I’ve moved it to Vimeo so you can see AND hear it again. :)

]]> By: rich http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10422 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:49:18 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10422 they did away with the sound on the video

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10308 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:58:30 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10308 Jerry, realistically, it’s up to each individual what they decide to pump into their own body. I have zero problem with personal choice. The problems arise with the impact that choice has on those around them. The family whose house was robbed while they were at work to feed a drug habit. The relatives of the drug-user who are left to pick up the pieces – regularly. The jogger just trying to go out for a run and not be accosted or mugged by a deranged druggie.

As for the poem and the video above, yes, it’s powerful stuff.

]]> By: Jerry http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10306 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:32:10 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10306 I’ve always been pro-legalization of drugs of any sort. A recent experience with a methed up homo freak in a quiet park here in Thailand has maybe prompted a 2nd look at the problem. Those lyrics were amazing… I grabbed your RSS.

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10197 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:55:23 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10197 Thanks for the links Graeme. I agree that alcohol and binge drinking in particular are worse problems for society in terms of the number of “victims”, but in defence of the poem, all of the drugs mentioned are *illegal*. Whilstever alcohol and tobacco are classified as *legal* drugs, there will always be a leniency toward them and an expectation from kids that they can use them safely in later life.

As for cannabis, the only mention in the poem and article is that it could be a stepping stone to harder drugs. That’s a fair enough statement. Most cannabis users wouldn’t break-in to people’s houses or mug people on the street for their next hit.

]]> By: graeme http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10194 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:42:58 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10194 Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet! I’m skeptical about a ‘poem’ where the opening verse concerns a progression from soft drugs to hard drugs. It’s just another mechanism for placing that link in the public’s mind. Why wasn’t booze in that first verse? Afterall, the main problem we have is binge drinking.
http://www.reachout.com.au/default.asp?ti=2113

Don’t get me wrong, i’m not advocating the abuse of any drugs, but if we are going to be hypocritical then our kids won’t trust us.

Read an excerpt from “The La Guardia Report” here
http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/003909.html

Dr Lester Grinspoon’s site is also worth a read, especially his own article.
http://www.marijuana-uses.com

-graeme

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10165 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:12:19 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10165 Glad you liked the conference. Always tough working a last-day crowd. :) Hope your son learned something from the video.

]]> By: John Daniels http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10164 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:35:47 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10164 Stu,
I saw this video at the conference today. I showed it to my 14 year old son as soon as I got home.

]]> By: jeopardygame http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10163 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:07:57 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10163 Yes, that’s right Byron –

“On April 8th 1994 Kurt Cobain, the lead singer of Nirvana, was found dead in his Seattle home of an apparent shotgun wound to the head and with three times the lethal amount of heroin in his system. A note lay at the scene. The verdict was suicide. Others are skeptical.”

However, I’m sure heroin played a large part in his downfall.

]]> By: Byron http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10162 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:31:20 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10162 Good article and an incredible song, but I have to point out that Kurt Cobain’s death was not an overdose….

]]> By: marc http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10159 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:36:49 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10159 thank you Neil for speaking out

]]> By: Neal Watzman http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10154 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:58:50 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10154 That Neil Young video is haunting.

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10147 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:20:56 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10147 Hi tobeme! Yes I think we all close our eyes too much to the things that go on around us everyday. We’re all one people. Apathy divides.

]]> By: tobeme http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10146 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:16:00 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10146 Thank-you for sharing. This should be required viewing and reading for everyone.

]]> By: paralleldivergence http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10145 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:39:44 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10145 Hi Emily. Thanks for your thoughts. It is certainly very sad that humans can do this to themselves. To me it is a very selfish act without any consideration of relatives and friends. Of course, some people are coerced through peer-pressure and difficulties in their lives, but it’s still a pretty bad cop-out.

Karen, welcome. I hope you like the site. It’s all about critical thinking. Seeing things from different points of view. The articles, videos and comics are their to spur on discussion and the comments by visitors are what allows everyone a chance to have their own say.

Mr Cleanster, thanks very much for finding out the history of heroin. I wasn’t aware of it myself. I’ve seen Candy. Very heavy viewing.

]]> By: Mr Cleanster http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10144 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:34 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10144 Why on Earth do people do this to themselves? I swear people who don’t take drugs will never understand those that want to. Is it depression? Is it loneliness? Do they not see the outcomes of all those who became addicted before them?

The start of your video put across an important product. Heroin is a natural product, from the poppy flower. But certainly injecting this natural product into your veins is not a natural event. Which then led me to track down the history of heroin:

“The Bayer Company started the production of heroin in 1898 on a commercial scale. The first clinical results were so promising that heroin was considered a wonder drug. Indeed, heroin was more effective than codeine in respiratory diseases. It has turned out, however, that repeated administration of heroin results in the development of tolerance and the patients become heroin-addicts soon. In the early 1910s morphine addicts “discovered” the euphorising properties of heroin and this effect was enhanced by intravenous administration. Heroin became a narcotic drug and its abuse began to spread quickly.”

I watched a recent movie with Heath Ledger called “Candy”, all about a couple who were heroin addicts. Very sad and often painful to watch.

]]> By: The Needle and the Damage Done | Rehab From Drug http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10143 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:40:05 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10143 [...] More: continued here [...]

]]> By: Karen Halls http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10139 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:32:33 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10139 I found your site on google blog search and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. Just added your RSS feed to my feed reader. Look forward to reading more from you.

Karen Halls

]]> By: Emily G http://paralleldivergence.com/2008/03/02/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/#comment-10138 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:00:54 +0000 http://stuhasic.wordpress.com/?p=103#comment-10138 The poem and the video are sooo sad! Thank you for sharing both of these. I like how well the images flow in the video, no matter how distressing they are.

So what can we as a society do when people continue to choose to start taking hard, addicting drugs themselves?

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